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From: "Jane ONeill" 
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Subject: aussie-weather: Snow near Melbourne
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 07:58:49 +1000
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Residents in Olinda on Mt Dandenong woke to snow this morning, we had sleet
in Bayswater, Vermont, Mitcham and Balwyn - all eastern suburbs.

7 degrees at 8am - still showers and sleet falling from TCu moving up from
the south - AND IT WAS 32 degrees a week ago!!!!!

Jane ONeill
Melbourne (and freezing!)

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Date: Wed, 07 Oct 1998 09:44:28 +1000
From: Matthew Piper 
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In the lower Blue Mountains between about 9:30 and 10a.m. there was a period
of extremely strong wind gusts which caused a number of large branches to
fall in my area. The wind was accompanied by only very light rain and as the
rain cleared so to did the wind which did not return at any where near the
strength it once was even though there was some heavier rain later in the
afternoon. I would be interested to know exactly why the extreme wind gusts
occured for such a short period even though there was no thunderstorm
activity in the area as on previus occasions before a cold front the strong
wind has tended to last for many hours.

Anthony Cornelius wrote:

> Storms of winds over 120km/h were reported in Sydney this morning -
> that's what we heard up here anyway.  I was hoping for some reports by
> some Sydney-siders *hint hint*
> :-)
>
> A streets' powerlines got wiped out - I personally thought it was a
> microburst, but then you'd expect some houses to have sustained
> damages!  Anyway, I've said my little bit, hope to hear from you guys
> soon :-)
>
> Anthony

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Date: Wed, 07 Oct 1998 10:35:40 +1000
From: Michael Scollay 
Organization: Telstra Strategy Data & Broadband
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Hi all (again),

I joined this email exploder last week after following a few links. My
name is Michael Scollay and I have have a theory about weather loving
that says... 

"Don't ever chose as a career, a favourite hobby or interest, because
if one falls out of that career, what has one left to turn too?"

My interest in "weather" started back about 1970 when I became
infected with a love of snow and what caused it. By 1978, I backed up
my Geography 2U HSC final exam with not less than three essays
concerning climate and weather plus one on the local region that
earned me a very credible result. How lucky. So with a good
metriculation under my belt, I went for a career in Electrical
Engineering with a focus on computers and communications. I kept up an
interest in my favourite hobby by cruising through the literature,
researching the theory and doing some monitoring and photography to
back it up.

The 'net came into being for me about 1992. Since then, useful
information sources have exploded, particularly in the last 18 months.
More recently, some very credible work on medium and long-range
forecasting clearing demonstrates that the science of weather is
beginning to mature. I use a few key sources on the 'net to produce
6-day forecasts for the people at the ski lodge in Perisher Valley
that I am associated with. Needless to say, as a testament to the
maturity of the models, these forecasts remain a talking point due to
their amazing precision most of the time but a few less precise
"calls" always shine through.

So I have evolved an interest in working out what "will" happen and
that includes short/medium term forecasting, plus the theories behind
the Southern Oscillation, human activity impact on the environment and
as yet to be properly discovered, the real reasons for the onset of
mini ice-ages and the extreme-term ice-epochs.

I'm not avid storm-chaser (yet). 3 young boys tend to keep one on the
safer side of things. I reserve my knowledge of storms to help prevent
my aircraft pilot friends plan their weekend sortes and to better plan
my own weekend activities. Nevertheless, I have some very interesting
video footage of some extreme weather events witnessed over the years
including up to five waterspouts in a row that formed one morning over
lake Malawi in Africa back in 1991 (That could be close to a record
IMHO) plus a -very- heavy snowfall this year in Perisher Valley (NSW)
that caused trees to collapse!

So there's a brief intro into "me". BTW, I'm almost a fossil in
comparison to a lot of the people in this list at 38 years old, but I
still get pimples:-)

Cheers,

Michael Scollay
mailto:michael.scollay at telstra.com.au
Sydney NSW Australia (au, oz)

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Date: Wed, 07 Oct 1998 11:00:36 +1000
From: Michael Scollay 
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Subject: aussie-weather: Snow in NSW 19981007
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Confirmed snow 199810071049: 

1) 15 to 20cm at Perisher-Blue. See Blue Cow snowcam at
www.perisherblue.com.au for a near real-time pic. Also stated on 2BL
this morning was snow falling in the Monaro district (Cooma way)
overnight. This snow has fallen to below 1000m.

2) Katoomba reports sleet & wet snow at times (10:49) with temperature
about +2 (under cloud) to +4 (sun out). If you stand on the escarpment
looking west toward Oberon, one can see the Central Tablelands
supporting a light cover of snow when the low cloud lifts. Temperature
at Oberon varys between -0.5 and +0.9 as I type.

mailto:michael.scollay at telstra.com.au

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From: wbc at ozemail.com.au (Laurier Williams)
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Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Snow in NSW 19981007
Date: Wed, 07 Oct 1998 01:25:24 GMT
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On Wed, 07 Oct 1998 11:00:36 +1000, you wrote:

>Confirmed snow 199810071049: 
>
>1) 15 to 20cm at Perisher-Blue. See Blue Cow snowcam at
>www.perisherblue.com.au for a near real-time pic. Also stated on 2BL
>this morning was snow falling in the Monaro district (Cooma way)
>overnight. This snow has fallen to below 1000m.
>
>2) Katoomba reports sleet & wet snow at times (10:49) with temperature
>about +2 (under cloud) to +4 (sun out). If you stand on the escarpment
>looking west toward Oberon, one can see the Central Tablelands
>supporting a light cover of snow when the low cloud lifts. Temperature
>at Oberon varys between -0.5 and +0.9 as I type.
>
Hi Michael

Sounds like you're in the same area as me. I'm at Blackheath, and
we've been having light showers of sago snow all morning. Temp in the
screen at 11.30EST is 5.2 with a minimum earlier this morning of 3.1,
not quite snow level. I'm surprised it's been as low as 2 at Katoomba,
because we're usually a degree colder. Mt Boyce AWS was reporting 5.0C
with a westerly of 22 knots gusting 34 at 11am -- a bit nippy for
October.

Laurier Williams
Australian Weather Links and News
http://www.ozemail.com.au/~wbc/

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Date: Wed, 07 Oct 1998 12:49:45 +1000
From: Michael Scollay 
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Laurier Williams wrote:
> 
> On Wed, 07 Oct 1998 11:00:36 +1000, you wrote:
> 
> >Confirmed snow 199810071049:
> >
> >1) 15 to 20cm at Perisher-Blue. See Blue Cow snowcam at
> >www.perisherblue.com.au for a near real-time pic. Also stated on 2BL
> >this morning was snow falling in the Monaro district (Cooma way)
> >overnight. This snow has fallen to below 1000m.
> >
> >2) Katoomba reports sleet & wet snow at times (10:49) with temperature
> >about +2 (under cloud) to +4 (sun out). If you stand on the escarpment
> >looking west toward Oberon, one can see the Central Tablelands
> >supporting a light cover of snow when the low cloud lifts. Temperature
> >at Oberon varys between -0.5 and +0.9 as I type.
> >
> Hi Michael
> 
> Sounds like you're in the same area as me. I'm at Blackheath, and
> we've been having light showers of sago snow all morning. Temp in the
> screen at 11.30EST is 5.2 with a minimum earlier this morning of 3.1,
> not quite snow level. I'm surprised it's been as low as 2 at Katoomba,
> because we're usually a degree colder. Mt Boyce AWS was reporting 5.0C
> with a westerly of 22 knots gusting 34 at 11am -- a bit nippy for
> October.
> 
> Laurier Williams
> Australian Weather Links and News
> http://www.ozemail.com.au/~wbc/
>
Hi Laurier,

Glad to know you're local to my sources of Blue Mountains info. Maybe
we can touch bases in person some time. I'll check the instruments
next time I'm in Katoomba since you are quite right, Katoomba -is
usually- about a degree colder than Blackheath. Some sleet might have
blown through the slats and lodged itself on the thermometer or my
observer's eye-sight needs some correction for parallax error:-)
But you'd have to agree that Oberon would have to be the coldest
winter place in Oz outside of the ski-fields!

The system causing this cold outbreak is most interesting. The latest
satellite pic I sucked off the 'net (199810062332 UTC) shows the
centre of a "low" with the classic spiral pattern of cloud about 600km
due E of Tassie. It seems to me that the satellite pic is showing more
about what's happening around 500hpa see right now:

gopher://gilgamesh.ho.BoM.GOV.AU:70/I9/Australian%20Weather%20Information/Weather%20Charts/msl_00laps 

The development of this system can be also seen through: 

http://weather.yahoo.com/graphics/satellite/Australia_loop.html

Strangely, most global-coupled forecast models showed this system
scurrying off in a SE to SSE direction but the latest BoM
human-produced MSLP map for 199810080000 UTC shows the low nearer NZ
due E of Tassie, effectively discounting the models. Someone in BoM
must be looking at the satellite pic:-)

mailto:michael.scollay at telstra.com.au

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From: "Jane ONeill" 
To: "Aussie Weather" 
Subject: aussie-weather: Meteorata
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 15:47:58 +1000
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This has to be relevant to all you lucky people out there who will have time
to *chase* this season!!

I just couldn't resist passing it along (especially for those of us old
enough to remember the original Desiderata!!)

http://home1.gte.net/webwide/meteorata.htm


Jane ONeill
Melbourne

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Date: Wed, 07 Oct 1998 16:07:03 +1000
From: Anthony Cornelius 
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Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Interview on Storm Chasing...
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Do you know the approximate time this will be on?  I might be able to
tape it on the VCR if I leave the hifi playing through the VCR
tomorrow...

Anthony

Paul Graham wrote:

> Hello everyone,
>         Jimmy Deguara informs me that there will be an interview with
> him
> about storm chasing tomorrow morning on Brisbane radio station 4BC
> (1116
> Khz).  Perhaps there is a RealAudio feed because reception outside of
> the
> Brisbane region will be quite difficult without a good receiver +
> antenna
> (besides D-layer absorption + interference from 3BM, West Melbourne).
>         - Paul.

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From: "James C" 
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Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Interview on Storm Chasing...
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 16:29:14 +1000
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Hi everyone

Is there anyone that heard the interview?  I missed it :(
By the way...absolutely nothing happened last night here in terms of storm
activity.  Some weak shrs and storms occurred in the Stanthorpe/Warwick to
Texas and Inglewood areas until 2am but nothing reached us coastal people.
Maybe Saturday?

James from Brisbane
www.ozemail.com.au/~jamestorm/bristorm.html
PS: I might turn up a little later than usual in the IRC tonight

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From: Anthony Cornelius 
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Date: Wednesday, 7 October 1998 16:21
Subject: Re: aussie-weather: Interview on Storm Chasing...


>Ignore that message...I didn't check my email last night, and I probably
>should have...
>
>Anthony
>
>Paul Graham wrote:
>
>> Hello everyone,
>>         Jimmy Deguara informs me that there will be an interview with
>> him
>> about storm chasing tomorrow morning on Brisbane radio station 4BC
>> (1116
>> Khz).  Perhaps there is a RealAudio feed because reception outside of
>> the
>> Brisbane region will be quite difficult without a good receiver +
>> antenna
>> (besides D-layer absorption + interference from 3BM, West Melbourne).
>>         - Paul.

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Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 18:06:32 +1000 (EST)
From: Paul Graham 
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Subject: aussie-weather: Interview with Jimmy...
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Hi everyone,
	Apparently the interview has been postponed for tomorrow but I
don't know what time...Perhaps you could try calling the radio station to
find out...
- Paul.

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hey there
i was down kiama way over night,( i live in Burwood) and i remember those
harsh winds yesterday, but did you notice the sky around 5.30 6pm ? was a
site to behold :)
Lucky i had my camera, and from the broadway shopping center carpark i
snapped a pic of 3 small cell's lined up in a row.. great stuff,to the
ocean,from the west..wonder if anyone else saw them..hope the pic comes
out.. anyway i was in kiama,was heading back today around 4-5.30pm, and i
noticed nothing apart from large masses of cloud and that brief period of
rain at around 5.30 in inner teh inner west,i was looking at the sky all
the way back to sydney,(passenger seat;) lots small showers over
wollongong, but other than that.. nothing spectacular.. but dam its
cold...9.5 in sydney at the moment 10 past midnight..one hell of a front
that one !
>Hi everyone,
>	Apparently the interview has been postponed for tomorrow but I
>don't know what time...Perhaps you could try calling the radio station to
>find out...
>- Paul.

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Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 18:21:42 +1000 (EST)
From: Paul Graham 
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Subject: aussie-weather: Interesting Weather...
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Hi everyone,
	Some quite spectacular skies in Sydney today with a cold, unstable
south westerly.  Only some brief showers were noted here in N. Ryde. 
However, something interesting to note is a report from a person I met
while taking some cloud photos late this afternoon.  He said that he saw a
fairly wide area of rotation in one of the clouds that came across this
afternoon (from here in N. Ryde) at about 4:30pm and said "It was quite a
site". Unfortunately I was inside at the time and so not able to confirm
this.  I asked him approximately how wide and he estimated about 1km.  I
was unable to find out any more information from him as he signalled he
was about to leave. If you here of anyone else who may have seen this
please send some info.  to the mailing list.  I am skeptical I'll here any
more - in any case it may have been turbulence or he may have been
bluffing. 
	- Paul.

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Date: Wed, 07 Oct 1998 19:30:39 +0800
From: Michael Fewings 
Organization: Edith Cowan Uni
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Hi all,

What a disappointment. Not even a suspicious looking cloud. Well at
least I didn't get in my car and start a nowhere chase.
Are there any subscribers (Except Jacob "hi Jacob") living in Perth or
Western Australia?
Any interested in setting up a chase or two for early summer. I would
ideally like to chase for lightning so if anyone is interested?
I do feel a bit on a limb over this side of the continent and all the
good weather happening over East. Maybe the next chance for a storm is
Friday evening for us West Aussie's.

Don't freeze tonight in the East

Michael Fewings

Document: 981007.htm
Updated: 20th October, 1998

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